From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:12:05 GMT+200

Subject:       Bortherly talks...

Priority       normal

 

Dear Ntongela

 

As usual I was excited to get your reaction although I feel it is

still incomplete from you of course I expected a much more

in depth reaction or even a series of controversial reactions

so that we can have an open fight or a satisfactory solution. 

The lady who is typing this is very analytical she expected

something more extensive from you as she has begun to

react to your opinions about whoever is the subject of

discussion.  She was dissappointed (she expressed this

openly)

 

She was expecting an extensive and comprehensive series

of comments.  Since I rely on her and her reaction  I think in

one time or other you will state explicitely whether you

agree or disagree with whatever opinions you found

postulated about the ideology ( as reacted to by me of

modernism or ) disagree in other words she was expecting a

battle royal after reading your letter she could not hide her

dissappointment.  Unfortunately for you not only is she

intelligent but also beautiful I mean beautiful not pretty like

Miss or Mrs Hollywood but someone who can afford to leave

her beauty to follow her and if necessary be drapped so that

it can emerge on its own unaided by the words.  In short she

is Miss Brain she can be critical, evaluative and encouraging

dispariging etc.

 

 

Anyway I understand that you are engaged in many things

personally I would have liked you to tell us ie me and my

alter ego exactly and exactly what you think I as you

understand am not certain about some of my opinions and

consequently I would like them to be afirmed or totally

discarded that is to say I have very high opinions of your

valuations and I despite my opinions find myself cautious as I

express them to you especially when I touch such a delicate

subject as modernism you would have noticed that I am not

hundred percent convinced about its value as a social

idiology yet I have to conceed that the technological

perspective  as described by  imperatives of technological

progress valid.  Of course social progress can be impacted

by technological progress by not in terms of in absolute.

 

 

On Jordan I agree with you.   Your assessment is pat on in

fact I would go further and say Jordan was in some way one

of those people who are broken and undermined by the

desire to be part of westernism without realising that

westernism by itself is fundamental legging far behind from

the challenges of humanism in other words westernism is

dominated by a series of  formulaie if not sometimes

drowned by them to the point that they are suspended and

are made to coexist without an intergrative process in other

words one can find a very highly intellectual and progressive

formular which is not  responded to the person's everyday

practises and beliefs.  In relation to Jordan to me a person

like him is not brave enough to choose one or other of the

directions in short he is not Kunene who doesn't care

whether a dogmatic marxists or dogmatic humanist

sentamentalist without on his own evolving a doctrine and a

practise that is intergrated.  My example of this is that of my

friend Che Guevara who died in Bolivia persuing the

universal idea of liberation and freedom for people. As for

Ngubane he could not in a thousand years transcend these

frameworks yet in order for one to achieve an intergration of

them one must transcend them.

 

 

As for Ngubane I agree with you and unfortunately I knew

the man personally and had a youthful revulsion of his

infertile dogmatism about the beauty of the (western

formulaie) it is not  real big crime to have a western

formulaie but it is a crime to be totally absorbed by it to the

extent that you yourself can cease to exist.

 

 

To be continued...fraternally......

 

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Thu, 8 Jun 2000 15:06:24 GMT+200

Subject:       answers, questions

Priority       normal

 

Dear Brother Ntongela

 

There is a crucial point that I need to be covered.  Namely

that what we are comparing here are incompatibles or

partially incompatibles.   In short I think we should separate

the focus on ideologies as focused by those writers whether

its Ngubane or Vilakazi by ideology here i mean the basic

and fundamental springboard from which these writers come

from or at the time of our focus where their minds are

centred.  Broadly you will find that when you discuss Zulusm

or Zulu Nationalism and the implimentation of such doctrines

within the framework of literature there is a great desperate

for instance Kunene starts of from the very beginning, that

his engagement in African  thoughts and systems are based

entirely and totally on the meaning of the African continent

and its philosophical and political roots.   The result always

is that focusing on the locale such as Zululand or Yoruba

land or Ghana land forces the author not to grasp the totality

of his experience on the African setting.  So he would find

that there two levels postulated by this perspective namely

that the material he or she concerned with is based on either

the concrete initiatives of that particular region but on the

other hand his material would be based on the much more

universal African experience an experience which makes

me identify who is or who is not an African and this is not

based on colour but on how that person utilises his

experiences on the universal level of dealing with non-

Africans in short someone can be black but not African

someone can be white but be African example Moroccan,

Algeria there maybe lighter in colour but meeting them i can

still tell this person is from Africa by his manner and his

mentality.  it is a complicated question which means that

when you are dealing with an issue concerned with a

literally text what concerns me is whether that text is

motivated by an ideology (Universal) that is African or not. 

This can become clear when you compare Selope Thema in

the era where he is an African totally in his writing and

Ngubane when he is reluctant or ashamed to be an African.  

It is the same when we are discussing Kunene and Vilakazi

we must decide whether Kunene is motivated at that point

by the basic idiots that characterise the African system and

those in Vilakazi that betray the influence of the phrasing

and the thinking in the western perspective.  Of course this is

a difficult issue for Vilakazi because he had to start by

framing the structures in terms of language and shape in

writting of African poetry whereas kunene although he did

not have Vilakazi as a point of reference initially he revolves

and he is in a position to (against Vilakazi in a short spell

because he already has had some advantage in vilakazism

and he is revolting against what exists but he is incomplete) 

Kunene launches his writtings at an earlier age of seven

years based on a strong grip of his experience of the rising

sun.  he is also helped by the fact that his  family owns vast

land that belong only to the family and therefore his mental

framework tells him that he is an African dealing with

outsiders ie Europeans in fact Europeans that visits his home

are welcome but the children are often revolted at using the

utinsils that have been used by Europeans.  This is not

exactly racism although it may look like it but rather an idea

of the insiders and outsiders.   This enables him very early to

base his mental framework on an African traditional idiom

without the sense of dealing with something inferior or

superior but just as an invetibility.   That is also the problem

you would find in Ngubane, Ngubane is as you say

influenced by Thema at first  because Selope is anchored on

his African base ie the land but Ngubane later on become

alienated from his African place that is Thema and then

begins to persue the idea of being elevated into a higher

and better European life?  That is where the conflict arises

from it is also a conflict that is going to bug many African

intellectuals the African American are luckier ( then also

Latin Americans) than Africans.  In that they carry with them

the buggage of being African wherever they are because it is

the weapon for them of survival consequently it would be the

African American who will not be challenged radically by

the idea of being African or European or whereas the African

is African at his base but he is not challenged by any other

ism as is the case with the African American who is

challenged or incircled by Europeanism and has to fight with

all possible weapons to be what he is.  This vain runs

through the argumetn about the language you see my dear

Ntongela Africa languages has an completely different

perspective in ripping out  the galaxies that characterise its

richness.   The Eurpenean language has got different

avenues through which it reaches a similar goal that is why

the African who uses the English language in writting

creatively, the literature that is poetry is unable or limited in

trying to reach the same centre as can be reached he or she

is writting on an African language that is it makes it very

difficult for an African text to be translated and centred to

attain the same dramatic originality as in the case of those

using english as their mother tongue equally the African who

are then conditioned to write their poetical text in english

are unable to achieve the same complexity of significance

as in the case of an english author.  it is easy for me to pick

up those poems in Vilakazi or ideas in Ngubane which are

derivative of western creative works such works are limited

not becuase the author is limited but because the linguistic

intent is different.  Don't worry yourself about me and

Vilakazi there is no doubt in my mind that the volume of

Vilakazis works (analytical) are vaster than mine.  Equally

there is no doubt that kunenes works compared to Vilakazi is

like making an comparism a life works (Vilakazi) to Kunenes

one months works.    Vilakazi was concerned with the

problem of transition to a much more formal structure as

dictated by the english language in the context of

transposing African ideas into a totally different western

contexts in other words African poetry is performed and is

part of public ceremonies and therefore has an instant

audience whereas Europeans literally and poetic framework

is not only private but also limited to an audience that is

supposedly can excess what is written and what belongs to a

particular class namely middle and upper class and the class

of people who are literate in a literally sense and not

necessary in terms of formal education. I am thinking here of

those people who postulated their poetry in public or in

limited audiences with recorders of the poetic works as they

were spoken such as Mahabaratha etc.

 

 

I will write one day and in depth and comprehensive essay

on Vilakazi I would have to reread Selope Thema's text in

order to recall and judge fairly the comparism you make as i

trust you intellectually I think I would rely on your

judgement.   The final word on Ngubane is that I think he

was able to transcend the limitations of one frame of thought

to another frame of thought ie western and African.   I can

freely postulate that a person who write in their language

and goes on to write in a second language would produce

something better in their original works and occassionally

write something interesting in the second language. 

Especially if they use some of the idioms borrowed from the

first language which invetible will sound fresh and unusual

in the second language.

 

 

Finally in fact one of the things that has made things difficult

for me concerning having to finish your introduction to

Dhlomo is precisely because I had an immediate and

pressing deadline on Tambo which I think my friend here is

now about to finish typing it, you can imagine that with all

these assignment she is no longer smiling give me a chance

I will finish soon.

 

 

Best regards to all my friends and enemies.

 

 

Mathabo is well thanks so is the rest of the family.

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:04:16 GMT+200

Subject:       greetings

Priority       normal

 

Dear Brother Ntongela

  

What a great relief to receive your letter.   You can imagine

that everyday I tried to write an introduction to Dhlomo but

without your comments and inspiration i am crippled.   What

is worse I have been asked to write the chapter on Tambo,

the chapter on liberation movement outside ( between you

and me i think I will not write I will leave it to the hacks like

Shh...shh..shh..sh... you know who) I like the idea that you

suggested on writting on Vilakazi in fact I wrote a poem on

him  a few days ago this means my spirit has become linked

with him, I have also forgiven him for having tended to write

in the spirit of the english romantics.   My objection to him

was that he tended to elevate, for my liking these english

romantic poets but then i have revisited him and entered to

his spirit and realised that he himself began to change into

an anthetic african poet and writer.  I think Vilakazi

rediscovered himself in the course of elaborating on the

idioms and anthetic concepts of writting on african based

themes.

 

Whereas I began from zero possessed by the gods that made

me see the ocean and the sun simultaneously I was also

surrounded by the spirit of both my great grandmother and

my grandfather both these gods surrounded me and named

me as their child.   I would very pleased to write on Vilakazi

but give me a chance to write on the challenges before me

ie epics.  Yes Ngubane I think he was a great and disciplined

intellectual except that such intellectuals in the South

African contexts become glorified by liberals ie Middle class

or aspirants to middle classism as a result they become

disorientated and aspire to be elevated as intellectuals in the

European sense by the way I would you to get in touch with

Maphalala who seems to know a lot about Ngubane.   Of

course I also knew him intimately but as an aeristocrat I

dispise him he seemed to have swallowed the pill of

foreignsm. Of course by aeristocratism it means  a different

thing from the decandent western style that appropriates all

the resources enclose their gates to the destitute of the

community, he also was striving hard not to the african but

our gods are older always then foreign gods. Maphalala is at

the University of Zululand in the department of history as the

Head of Department.  He is I think one of the best if not the

best african historian.  His presentation at graduation (Phd)

was in Zulu his mother tongue.  I am not being chauvanistic

here in fact I am a bastard between Zulu and Swazi or Zero. 

You could tell him that I suggested his name to you he is a

friend of mine.

 

 

Yes I agree with you I am one of the greatest poet the world

has ever seen in fact I am an phenomenal in saying that i am

only talking about him or her not me. In this context I am

only an observer whatever I write or say in this context it is

all almost dictated to me by some force or power about

which I am not in total control of, yes I have been very lucky

in these days there is a girl whose spirit corresponds with me

you can not imagine I draw from her, I would say I am in

love but my ancestors warned not to be so it is a question of

choice between their creativity and my interest since they

are superior to me they would easily distroy me the day I

choose the latter as against their sacred mission.   I know

you as a sceptic will not believe in these things but what

explaination can I have to the phenomenal.  It is enough for

me to embrace it so that I can have the sacred energy to

create on the scale i am challenged to create at the present.

 

For you I wish this kind of window to see into your own

creative powers.

 

 

I am with her constant harrassments going to complete

Dhlomo in fact it is an everyday thing for me from her I am

sure I would finish in fact i have already written quite a

number of pages but the question she constantly ask is how

many pages am I suppose to write and when I answer that it

is 40 pages she says that is crazy since it is not pages that

matter but the substance.   As i think of what she says I think

she is right because one becomes obsessed with the destiny

as dictated by pages and not the free and outpourings of the

ideas.

 

At the moment she is yawning as she feels this is a long

enough letter can you confirm the number of pages that you

have legislated that I should write.

 

 

How are you beside all the challenges before you, are you in

good health well you sound like but then a human being is

not the same as he presents himself to the audience ie Me as

the part of the audience but I ask you finally dont stop

writting me if not in emails at least fax I need your daily

support as I write this text believe me I have read,

underlined the text you sent in all the significant segments

infact I think if I had ten years to write my own text I utilise

the ideas and themes contained in your text.  Do you know I

have reservations about the idea of modernism which I think

is dictated by the perspective of western technologism.   I

prefer progress as defined by the Chinese and or Africans

prior to colonisation.It seems to me modernism is an

appropriation of the idea of western superiority to describe

technology as a symbol of the highest achievements of all

phases of human kind.

 

Yet to me civilisation can be described as that which was an

exstant  in the era of Pithecathropus Erectus.  The

supposation that poeple were once not civilised.  Is an

incredible claim since according to my own vision people

change their environment in correspondence to the demands

of that environment.

 

Best wishes.

 

Hope to hear from you soon.

 

Your brother  Mazisi

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:26:04 GMT+200

Subject:       touching base

Priority       normal

 

Dear brother Ntongela

  

I have not heard from you in a long time hopefully you are

well.  You do know that if I don't hear from you my creativity

can not flourish in a way that I would like so please get in

touch and tell me what has been happening on your side.

 

 

I am doing well in the writting and everything is moving

smoothly but again it would be much better if you can

contact me, please.

 

Hope to hear from you soon.

 

Best wishes

 

Your brother.  Mazisi Kunene

 

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Thu, 18 May 2000 14:17:59 GMT+200

Subject:       KEEPING IN TOUCH

Priority       normal

 

Dear Brother Ntongela

 

Your words always inspire and challenge me a greater deal

but it seems that these days you have kept yourself silent,

why is that?  Please write to me, share what has been going

on with you and I shall wait your reply.

  

Your Brother

 

Mazisi Kunene

 

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:12:18 GMT+200

Subject:       A short note

Priority       normal

 

Dear Brother Ntongela

 

 

I am confronted with a request of  "Anthem of the decades"

and "Emperor Shaka The Great" can you try and trace these

books.  They were both published by Heinmaan and partially

financed by UNESCO.   By the way did I tell you that I

desperately the record book which is used by offices I am

told it is available at office depos every year and usually

copies follow each year  either they are trashed after that or

sold  very cheaply can you trace about ten volumes for me I

need them urgently for my magnus opus.  This is urgent for

this documents I am prepared to go to America in the next

two months in fact a friend of mine Norman Lea the film

maker has invited me to come whatever whenever I so

choose.  This is not a letter but a special request to you

please respond to my other letter I do enjoy the dialogue we

are having through email.

 

The rest of the discussion will be continued in due course.

 

 

Best regards

 

Prof. Mazisi

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:10:21 GMT+200

Subject:       Priority       normal

P.S. there is a theory that each universe give rise to other

universes therefore I am not surprised that the constillation

of the Masilela clan coexisted with the Kunene clan.

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:06:03 GMT+200

Subject:       Replying again

Priority       normal

 

Dear Brother Ntongela

Please understand and understand clearly that I never never

as a flippant and the lightheaded spirit.  When I met you in

Berlin you were so serious for me that I felt embarrassed in

myself that I was solely and utterly concerned with the war

against South Africa.  You will recall that I was moving office

to office looking for legal and illegal avenues to deal with

the issue of liberation. 

In short I was a fanatic ready to die if necessary for liberation

in this I was under the direction of none other than Mabhida

KaSitimela my commander.  I may have wrongly thought the

issue of discussing about Dhlomo, Ngubane even Vilakazi

will be flippant.  You can imagine that I never even

discussed with Tambo or anybody else about my writtings. 

My writting of Empire Shaka the great was not as an

obsession about Zulus but about the strategies of war fare

that Shaka so perfectly devised  imagine in this context my

joy to learn that the book about Shaka the great was a must

for all members of  Umkhonto Wesizwe.  I am telling you this

to give you an idea or that you can recall my state of mind at

that time.   I have not changed much the only thing that has

changed is the strategy and that I now have avoided to

indulge in those things that were to lead to my physical and

mental distruction such as the excess drinking which I had to

do considering that I was travelling to every part of the world

preaching and creating underground fanatics who were

volunteers from other countries.    Since I was in a state in

which I was in my mind destined to die in the battlefield I did

not even take seriously those women who were hanging

around me, the only woman I thought of seriously was a

friend of mine who was Moroccan whose name I never got to

know only I knew was that she was  a member of an

underground under Ben Barka Liberation Movement.   She

probably is now dead because she was ready to be assigned

to some of the most dangerous mission.   I am telling you this

because I was to envoke in you the memory of the

atmosphere under which I operated.  I am sorry if I had

seemed to have not taken you seriously, I ALWAYS took you

seriously and I always thought you will be the only person or

the only intellectual who could genuinely record our history.

Yes I will go to Pietermaritzburg as soon as I can to see

Nyembezi the poor alternative will be to send somebody

there. 

Incidentally you stated in one of your letters or was it an

enquiry that Vilakazi was a central model for my writtings,

actually when I began to write I had no model I was only

obsessed and haunted by the sight of a big gigantic sun

emerging from the ocean like a ball of fire as our house was

on top of the hill nicknamed the hill of the quiet winds.  I was

mesmerised by this whole spectacle where I could see the

sun rising follow it around our building to its moment certain

in the west.   This even forced my father to buy me a folding

table which I could use for writting around the building and

when I went to the forest to write.  Yes at first I tried Dhlomo

but I had to switch to Vilakazi as he wa writting in Zulu well

since we were aristocatic family the idea of writting in a

foreign language was unthinkable and to my father a lowly

act.  I am furnishing you with this data so that I don't have to

do this later pity some of the manuscript of this period are

lost, I may state that a man called Ngema was the head

teacher was the first man to acclaim that "My boy you wrote

this, this is good poetry in fact great poetry. "  I was

astounded since I didn't even know what he was talking

about all I knew was that I too write according to the impulse

that was troubling me.  It was a fanatical drive that some

thought towards self-destruction.   The only connection

people tended to make was that since my mother was such a

great singer maybe I will follow her.   Well we all could not

see nor could my brother who tried piano and some ugly

foreign operatic house.  I was a barbarian who was always

ready to fight and always had to have interventions from the

family to stop my fighting no wonder that I have this gaping

hole in my head from the same wars  from a boy of the

Mkhize family who did with the big boulder.

In conclusion when I grew up then I had no skills whatsoever

of dealing with women that is the softer side of life

consequently I could not be saved.  My relations then with

women were always disasterous that is impatient and ready

to dump and be dumped.  In other words I was simply

imbalance perhaps nature needed me to have a vast and

divers experience of life which I obtained.  A dictionary of

course I was thought of a kind of beast all this was

inaccurate discription by those who thought that was me but

in fact I needed only to relate to my creative forces thank

god I am now balanced in that I have no fears of life or

death spiritually and otherwise.

I am going to pursue the idea of writting a good introduction

on your book as a way also of  reviewing my own theories,

of course these theories I have already articulated in the

earlier part of my essay we shall wait and see how critic my

approach and of course since it is your book we must enrich

I am prepared to critic whatever I say in balance of your

opinions.   Finally meantime you should read my mind about

some of the statements  arising from my own approaches

e.g. that all intellectuals from South Africa were influence,

controlled undermined in one way or other by their absence

of an ideology that springs from their own cultures and

traditions.  In other words my stipulation is grossly that no

one can be a true intellectual without an anchorage in their

own traditions and cultures in fact this is the energy the force

that escalate the power of creativity.

Best regards as always

*Greetings to the family faraternally  Mazisi Kamdabuli We

Kunene.

 

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:15:23 GMT+200

Subject:       Reply

Priority       normal

 

First of all to business first C.L.S.Nyembezi is very much alive

he had a stroke but he is recovering very well or shall say

'Jazzically' so I was told by reliable sources I intend to visit

him myself as soon as I get settled with what I am doing

hopefully if he is well I will carry a tape recorder.

 

 

As for Maphumulo and Ngidi I remember their names in my

youth vaguelly as my father was a great reader of his sacred

Ilanga Lase Natali.  I don't think they ever wrote any book or

any big literally work I will search though from Killie

Campbell Centre.

 

 

Jordan Ngubane is a complicated character, yes I met him

many times in fact he used to come to my place very often

fortunately or unfortunately I belong to the Kunene family

that means simply I am trained in loyalt.  He could call me

dogmatic for having felt a certain revulsion for him

(motivated by my loyalty to the organisation therefore

needing no alternative opinions the fact that he had joined

the liberal party and dogmatically anti-communist made me

have a deep contempt for him) at the same time I realised

that he was a man , an intellectual with deep loyalties

towards western directions of intellectualism.He also was so

vicious on Luthuli that I felt protective towards Luthuli whose

gentleness and political I knew very well.  In this case he

seemed to be trading on Luthuli's  very soul to the white

audience in South Africa maybe my violent judgement on

him was based on the fact that I knew Luthuli as my father

and I knew his gentleness and generosity.  It is a pity that

you are not writting on Luthuli that will give you an

opportunity to judge on the fundamental question of

modernism and so called traditionalism this I think will give

you an incredible balance in your judgement and also give

you insight on Tambo when you start writting about him.

Nevertheless I still think that Ngubane was a man possessed

with a disciplined but misguided political opinions by

misguided I mean he was over influenced by western

intellectualls. Of course there is Chinese intellectualism,

African, Indian, PreAmerican intellectualism they are all

based on the idea of searching for meaning on a universal

scale this we must identify first before we make conclusions

about whether this or that is fitting for a particular period or

era.  Thank God we have reached the era of universalism at

least within our planet that for me will be a direction towards

modernism it must include all trends positively (towards

relevant or a relevant doctrine or doctrines towards

universalism)

On 'Jazz' I will comment please treat Jazz as a way founded

by African Americans towards modernism they were lucky

because their religion was stylised in African directions and

therefore we can regard them as a first and the most

dynamic force towards recreating an alternative to

westernism we must also bear in mind that they were lucky

also because they were victims of the most vicious attempts

to sterilize them and recruit them as appendages of the

western doctrines.  their revolt and reaction in language and

in spirit and in the preservation of what remain to define

them as African became a quality of reenforcement towards

enabling them to define themselves as Africans i.e.as

children of Africa this has guaranteed them as our

ideological leaders in the sphere of change that is why those

scholars and writers in Cuba, Brazil, South United States are

correct when they stipulate that they are the keepers of the

sacred calabbash.

I hope you still have access to my document which I wrote

when I was in America on your instigation on this subject.

There are some people who are on the way to being

Africans and there are some who have turned away

(ideologically) from being African.  It seems to me that the

strength of civilizations, modernism etc lies in a people to

anchor their persepectives on their past i.e. ideologies that

define them. 

On Dhlomo I think he was an intellectual writer without

doubt but never equate him to the Kunene.  The problem we

have here is that he tended to address the western audience

and was forced to talk as if he was apologetic about his

tradition.  His brother was lucky in this sense that he was

writting in his language, this note the attempts by people

who were totally exiled from Africa that they began to create

languages that were neo Africa or rooted and based on their

ideologies of Africa some take a route of using gaja and

rastafarians using hash to re experience (if only in fantasy)

the great reality of Africans do not look down on them in

their attempts to recoup their individualism, Africanism. 

Likely we are now moving towards an era that is going to

celebrate Africa genuinely without the phony attempts of the

so called intellectuals i.e. pseudo westerns.  No one can fully

celebrate this quality of intellectualism in a foreign context

to do so one must anchor totally in the culture and do I dare

say, the language from which he comes from.

Finally my verdict on Kunene and Dhlomo is simply it will

take a thousands years for Kunene to be born again.

Hope to hear from you soon.

M. Kunene

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From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:59:11 GMT+200

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Dear Brother Ntongela

One must marvel a creation for having created a species

called American.  Although this species is limited in many

ways it has (pending its deep and ancient cultures of China,

India, Africa and Pre-America) unless they imitate and learn

from these deep and massive civilization of the past they will

be in a position to have created or create for themselves and

for humanity in general a great civilization. 

Note a new civilization I refer to will combine the actual

human civilization i.e. social civilization and mental

civilization of crisis called technology and sometimes called

modernity.  I know this is unfair to you before you absorb the

great perseptions that I will intergrate into the critic of the

introduction to your Masterpiece and great research.

You ask me a relevant question:  How is Kunene rated in

relation to Dhlomo, Velakazi et al?  Well I think the answer

is simply and logical none of these writers wrote with a

global and universal perspective because they were trapped

in their own era and local problems (note that Kunene

transcended the politics from which he learned many things

relating to the global challenges)   First of all I think Velakazi

was great of course could not be greater than kunene Ha!

Kunene is a phenomenal as generations hereafter will

affirm.   Secondly you noticed that the people that come

closer to Kunene's estimation wrote in their language that is

Mqhayi, R.R. Dhlomo and Vilakazi they had the challenge to

enter into the depths of their souls that stretch invatible to

the eras of their past, nobody who neglects the eras of the

contributions of ancient times shall ever be great.  The

reason to me is obvious greatness issues from the womb of

the earth the earth is our mother and all our wisdom comes

from this connection and relationship.  Yes, the others have

made an effort to glorify the spectacular exit of the mind to

things visual i.e. the romantics and others but because they

abandon the direct challenges of the earth they were

punished by the earth and remain interesting but unachored

and minimal i.e. not universal.  I never underestimated your

critisms in fact I am learning a lot from your thesis here of

course I will have my own views on modernism.  I think

modernism is a good idea as long as it is not glorified as a

psychological condition in other words glorified without

realising that it is an instrument of control glorified by those

who exercise power.   This is in relation to circumstances

relating to countries and movements such as missionarism,

technological advancement as in ideological statement and

justification of exercising power over the technological

disadvantaged it means my Dear Ntongela that technology is

relevant to the challenges imposed on us by the material

crisis of our era.  In short we are getting more and more

exposed to the scarsity and organisations that relate to the

need to transform our technologies in relation to the

President but we are warned by history that we should never

totally abandon that  wisdom that mushroomed from our

relations stipulated by our earth base. 

My friend here is telling me to wrap up this email and I will

since people like her will only get angry inside are more

dangerous than those people who frequently express their

anger in spectacular demostrations.  I will conclude by

saying the obvious namely that the control of language with

all its philosophies is crucial it always pulls back to base 

and in fact you define the universe and the universal in

terms of our anchorage to the earth.   Yes I know you will

disagree with me but after  a while you will think and rethink

and begin the process of admitting that perhaps Kunene had

a point or was right (any chance for that happening).

You asked what am I doing here well here is the answer, I

am contested cake between the University of Natal and Natal

Technikon on the verge of my being moved from Natal

Technikon sent its messangers and said thank you we are

here to collect Kunene at which point Natal Varsity said No

he is ours since then they had continued say it with a bang

by providing me with offices but no telephone thanks to the

students who made so many telephone calls that the phone

was disconnected unless I paid R27000, which I did not have

and still not have therefore I am here at Natal Technikon

with three offices with a telephone and peace to write my

many Masterpieces.  Fortunately there are friends here one

of them being the one who is typing for me without pay but

hoping to be paid eventually and often capable conversing

intellectually with me.  I wish this lady on you she is great

without realising it if only she could stop one habit which I

wont mention it since she is typing this note.

I have a great artist here named Andries Botha who

fanatically looking everywhere for funding for me  so that I

am totally free from any concern or thought about money.

That explains everything she says to Wrap up so I will.

Thank you for being there for me to talk to .

Best regards

Mazisi Kunene

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 From:          "R M Kunene" <KuneneM@umfolozi.ntech.ac.za>

Organization:  Technikon Natal

To:            NMASILEL@bernard.PITZER.EDU

Date:          Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:14:50 GMT+200

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Dear Brother Ntongela

Today I completed reading and rereading your tome on

Dhlomo but you poisoned my mind when you quoted Dholmo

refleting on the importance of creativity "South Africa is

legging behind other countries because in cultural as in

social matters, she neglects and even deliberately stifles the

real soul of the country... the African... but the Muses

recognise not colour frontiers, and South Africa will only

reap poverty and shame for her sins against the Voice and

Spirit of God; for art is of God.  That is why it cannot be

taugth or acquired.  It is inborn or god-given those who stand

against artistic talents challenge The Creator Himself... the

irony is that it is the African who will in the near future

produce outstanding and even performing talent."  Although

this statement can be taken as prophetic in predicting the

coming of Mazisi Kunene, arguably the greatest African poet

in the twentieth-century, how does Dhlomo's own creative

achievement measure up in the context of this astonishing

and extraordinary valorization of the creative act and art

itself!    The person who defines others as inferior and

incapable of a higher capacity for intellectual reasoning

defines himself/herself as such.  Such a person has entered

the propaganda's sphere as a varitable defination of the

Other.  He or she has become a victim of those in power who

must of necessity define the mind that must rule on his or her

behalf.   It is no surprise therefore that the rulers must not

and do not believe the tenants of their doctrine about the

ruled and yet fear them.  From here begins your chapter on

the critic and a valuation of Dhlomo's intellect and

contribution.  Not so long after this beginning I shall send

you the whole chapter of the introduction.  Give me only a

few weeks maybe days and you will receive the introductory

treatise as handled by me the Master.

Thank you for everything and exposing me through your

manuscript to a whole lot of ideas, challenges and necks to

slew.  Wait for my sword.  I promise you I will use both

hands.  It me Mazisi Kamdabuli W`Ekunene.